Imperfect Action: Albert's Entrepreneurial Success Story

🎙️ The Undiscovered Entrepreneur Podcast: Episode with Dr. Albert de Montes

 This week, host Jesse sits down with Albert deMontes, a New York-based talent agent, entrepreneur, and author of "Rise Above the Script: Confronting Self-Doubt, Mastering Self-Sabotage for Boring Artists." Albert shares his unconventional journey from psychology student to talent agent, the power of imperfect action, and how to turn fear into your greatest asset.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

• Why jumping into entrepreneurship—without waiting for the “perfect” moment—can be your best move.
• How Albert’s background in psychology shaped his approach to talent representation and business.
• The truth about imposter syndrome and how it can actually fuel your growth.
• The dangers of perfectionism and how to overcome procrastination.
• Actionable advice for new entrepreneurs: take action, network, and surround yourself with positive influences.
• The importance of facing your fears and using them as a compass for personal and professional growth.
• How to build resilience, grit, and a mindset for continuous learning.

Book Mentioned:

• Rise Above the Script: Confronting Self-Doubt, Mastering Self-Sabotage for Boring Artists by Dr. Albert de Montes

Connect with Dr. Albert de Montes:

• Website: albertbrimont.com
• LinkedIn: Albert Brimont
• Instagram: @Dr.AlberMonte

Key Takeaways:

• Imperfect action beats perfect inaction—start now, refine later.
• Fear is often a signpost for growth; what you fear most may hold your biggest breakthrough.
• Your network is your net worth—connect with others in your field, even competitors.
• Celebrate your wins and take credit for your achievements to combat imposter syndrome.
• The only person you should compete with is yourself—strive to be better than you were yesterday.

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Transcript

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[00:00:00] This is an undiscovered legacy production and proud member of Pod Nation Media Network.

 Alright, school believers. Let's get across the start line with today's entrepreneur, Albert de Montes. A.

Talent scout from New York City. Let's go. We.

Are you ready to unlock your entrepreneur potential? Are you ready to break free from all the barriers holding you back, then you've come to the right place? Welcome to The Undiscovered Entrepreneur, your first step in getting across the start line.

Let's get across that start line together right here, right now on the Undiscovered Entrepreneur.

Someday doesn't exist. It's not on the calendar. So what is your reality when start taking action today? What actions can you take? And even if it's jotting down some ideas, taking [00:01:00] as an actor, go back into acting class. Go shoot some scenes on your phone and practice doing a couple monologues on your phone.

Or as a business owner, going to some networking events. 

Jesse: Salutation SC Believers. And we are here again with another amazing entrepreneur today. We're here with Albert. Hey Albert. How are you? I'm great, Jess. Thanks for inviting me. Yeah, thank you for taking your time outta your day to be on the Undiscovered Entrepreneur and get across the start line.

We super appreciate you. 

Albert: Thank you. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. 

Jesse: Alright, so before we go any further, I have a semi-serious question to ask you. Okay. You ready? Mm-hmm. Okay. Are you a SC believer? I sure am. Alright, thanks Albert. Thanks for being a scuba believer. Super appreciate you. Alright, so right here front, what I'd like to do here is get a kind of an idea of, uh, who you are, what your entrepreneur adventure is, and what it was like for you to get across the start line in your entrepreneur adventure.[00:02:00]

Albert: Sure. Well, thank you. Uh, I'm, I'm a talent agent, so I represent actors. I have my own company. I've had my own company. I've had a couple of different companies, but I've always worked on my own in this space and in the talent representation space in the New York area. So my journey was a bit unconventional.

When I say that, I meant most people who start, at least in my space, start off working for somebody else, maybe, uh, being a junior agent or even an an, an assistant, and then move up the ranks and then eventually start their own company. I just went completely, I just went for it. I started my own company. I didn't do any of the other steps initially.

I didn't work for anybody else, you know, at least in this, this capacity, in this type of work. I've always owned my own companies.

Jesse: Alright. What was that like for you? Because I mean, nor, I mean, you kind of did, kind of went the unconventional route there. You just went for it. Yeah. What was that like? 

Albert: Well, it's kind of like just really jumping right in a fire and like, oh yeah, there, [00:03:00] there was a lot of challenges in the beginning that, and I'm not not gonna sit here and tell you it was great.

That would be dishonest, you know, and, and disingenuous if I told you that it was a wonderful linear journey. It wasn't. And a lot of lessons I've learned along the way. I mean, plus the industry that I'm in is, again, unconventional, not the typical entrepreneur that you may, you know, talk to. So, show business is a very exciting, but incredibly tough industry no matter how you, which way you cut it.

It's overly competitive. It's overly saturated, and everyone's vying to get, you know, famous or, or become the best. Uh, having the best clients out there, it can be a bit cutthroat, which is something I wasn't prepared for. And I was young, naive at the time, my video, I thought, oh, this is gonna be great. It's gonna be so [00:04:00] easy.

It wasn't, you know, it. A lot of, a lot of competition, a lot of, um, that that can happen that I wasn't used to, that I wasn't really at that time prepared for. I think just what I said earlier, if I want the traditional route, I might have been more prepared for and been a more equipped to handle initially in the beginning.

So I've always been the type that I'm gonna do it myself and. Yeah, I, I think it's, for me, I would consider both the strength and maybe a fault to some level that maybe I should have asked for help, or maybe I should have done the conventional route by working for somebody, you know, two, you know, for two or three years, and then start my own company.

So at least I'll see how it's done. I can learn systems. So I was kind like just doing everyth blind finally, initially in the beginning. So yes, I did make mistakes. I did make a lot of mistakes and, but I also feel at the same time, they helped me [00:05:00] become, you know, where I am today by embracing those mistakes rather than focusing on and dwelling and regretting on them.

Because past is the past and everyone has to learn, and that includes. Failure. 

Jesse: Yeah, exactly. And it's amazing that you just, you just jumped in from, in it and, and just learned from the mistakes instead of just, you know, learning from somebody else first. And that puts you where you are now. I mean, you wouldn't be where you are now, you'd be somewhere else for sure if you didn't just do it that way.

You know, everybody has an adventure, they'd do it their way. Mm-hmm. And you did it, you definitely did it your way. And I kind of did it the same way too with mine, with my podcast. I didn't take any classes, I didn't do anything. I just taught myself the whole way through. Um, maybe watch a couple of YouTube videos, but that was about it really.

So, but yeah, it's, it's great to be able to do something like that for yourself 'cause you really get into the thick of it. 

Albert: Mm-hmm. Uh, and, and I sure did. And because it, it was like, it's like jumping into the ocean without, you know. [00:06:00] Reading any news reports or anything, just like, okay, I'm going right in.

And that's exactly what I did. And it was, again, like I said, there were some hiccups in the beginning, as with any entrepreneur. So the one thing I would definitely say, which I would highly recommend to anybody who's working a business, perseverance, you need, you need that, and that includes resilience and grit and that.

Means, you know, not backing down easily and not giving up after you make your mistake. Because I've, I had well-intentioned people in my life, my family, my friends, saying for after the first year saying, you know, maybe this, this is not gonna work out and you should pack it in. And looking back, they weren't wrong because the mistakes that I was, ma, you know, the, the things that were happening would have made everyone understand if I just said, you know, this isn't for me.

I'm glad I didn't, obviously, you know, otherwise I, I'd be working for somebody else, [00:07:00] which I'm a great, you know, like I'm not, I'm not toot my own horn here. I'm definitely very loyal and I do work well with people, but I'm not the type of person that likes to work under somebody else or force somebody else.

I can tell you that about me, you know, like from the get go. So yeah, being an employee was not exactly. Something I wanted to do 

Jesse: does, it doesn't quite fit what you're really wanting to do there. You kind of have to work for yourself for something, for something like what you're doing now. For sure. 

Albert: Yes, and, and it's simple because there's several reasons.

The autonomy, you know, the freedom to do what I want. If I'm working for somebody else, I gotta, I would have to conform to the mission of their company. I'd have to, to their agency, to their. You know, their, their workflow and even, 'cause I've talked to other people who work for agencies. There are agents in other agencies and they say, you know, that a lot of their decisions are not theirs.

That [00:08:00] even like the type of client they wanna sign. Like if I wanted to sign an actor, now obviously being my own company, I could sign over a darn well belief. But if I work for somebody else, I have to get approval. And they could say no. Right. Or if it comes time to, you know, every agent, what they do at the, at the end of every six months to a year is we go through our client list and say, okay, you know, who's and who do we kind of like release from the agency, which actors are not, you know, being the, aren't the best fit anymore.

If I work for somebody else, other people make a decision for me. 

Jesse: Mm-hmm. 

Albert: Defend that. Like I could really wanna have an actor still in my roster. They, the, my, the higher ups could say don't, and I wouldn't have a, like the stand on. So it was just like, I wanted to do things my way. Now. Yes. I mean the, the, what I was saying earlier, the, the advantage of maybe working with somebody else, they may have a more proven [00:09:00] system that might have been more an easier path for me to learn.

To look at a proven system of, of the way things are done. I didn't have that. You know, again, I was just winging it for the first few years. I was like, okay. And then I just really, even to this day, you know, 21 years later, I am doing what works. You know, like for me, and I can only speak from my own experience when I say, you know, this is how.

Things should be done. I can only say this is what works for me, and it may not work for somebody else. So that's the only advantage of, of, uh, I would say maybe the disadvantage of, of not getting that foundation is maybe some of the errors that I encountered might not, might not have, might have been avoidable.

Who knows. But I also, at the same time, I can't really, I'm not gonna be like, oh, well this could have been, or this could have been 'cause it's over. It's, it's it [00:10:00] fast and fast. I could only say, what can I learn from this? And that's the whole thing about failure. I think one of the important lessons I've learned about failure is not to feel sorry for himself or not to dwell on it or wallow in it, but what can we learn from this?

What lessons did it teach us? What, what, what lessons your mistakes teaches. And I think as entrepreneurs, that's one thing that we can really embrace is our mistakes, our failures, and say, okay, this is, these are opportunities now to, to learn. 

Jesse: Yeah. That's a 

Albert: more powerful than learning from a textbook or a course I think.

Is this actually okay, this didn't work. Okay. This approach doesn't work. Now I need to try something different. 

Jesse: Well, it kind of teaches us what not to do, right? I mean, let's not do the same mistake twice when we had come across that same instance again. Let's treat it differently 'cause we know how to do it.

'cause we've learned from our [00:11:00] mistake. That's really how it works. 

Albert: Absolutely. 100%. And, and that's the only way we learn is by making those mistakes. It's, you know, same thing like, you know, we're gonna go even on a. More psychological side are if any listeners or parents, you know, sometimes the best lessons for the children to learn is to make their own mistakes.

And of course we don't want that to happen, but that can be the best classroom is their mistakes. 

Jesse: Exactly. That's awesome. I love that. So you, you, you said you had a couple business before you did this, so I'm kind of curious about. What led you to, um, what you're doing now? 'cause right now you're a talent, a talent scout, I guess would be, or talent agent.

Talent, yeah. 

Albert: Yeah. I mean, when I say a couple businesses, there were always talent agents. Now, 

Jesse: okay. 

Albert: What happened in my journey from 2004 to 2020? It was just me. I had my own company in, during the pandemic, I had merged [00:12:00] with another agent. At this time to create like a partnership or merger. So that was from, I would say, December, 2020 to December 20, so exactly three years, December, 2023.

Now, for me, it didn't work out. It wasn't a harmonious partnership. I can say great experience, but it was time to move on. It was time for a change. So in Earl in January 1st, 2024, I started Monte Artists, which is now where I'm at now. So I've always had my own company and there were always talent agencies, but it was just under different names and branding.

So I was on my own for about 16 years and then I merged for three years and then now back a year and a half, almost two years now I'm back on my own. So that, that's kind of like where I was at now. What made my decision was. I, this [00:13:00] is completely by accident. If you told me when I was in high school or college that I'd be working in chops business, I would've laughed.

I would've said, this is absurd. You're ridiculous. I had really, no, I mean, I had some interests, but not a whole lot. Like I was in a drama club in high school. I took some acting classes in colleges, electives, but I was bent on becoming a psychologist, a clinical psychologist. That was my. Really my goal for several years, and I did my ma uh, I, when I was going for a master's degree.

I finished, when I was finished, got my master's degree. I did an internship at a New York talk show. Again, unconventional internship for a psychology grad student. However, they, this talk show had a, had like a mediation unit afterwards, an aftercare unit, which. Kind of help calm down the guests that they were fighting and killing each other on stage.

What can we do? Let's get them to calm down afterwards and maybe get them [00:14:00] the help they need in their home, in their home state. So that's what the department I worked in as an intern. So I was with psychology and counseling, but just in a very unconventional background that kind of sets the seat for my show, you know, my career in the entertainment industry.

Although, I will tell you this, I will never, I'd never want to go near talk, talk tv ever from that experience. It was a lot different from what I thought it was. 

Jesse: Mm-hmm. 

Albert: To the reality of it. Wake huge, wake up all there. So, but afterwards, this is, now, this is right around the time nine 11 happened. I'm in New York area, so.

I started volunteering. I started working, helping with people, some people who I met at this talk show to create an an organization that provided counseling rights, intervention and advocacy services to following rescue [00:15:00] workers and their families. Again, nothing related to acting, but I started working with a lot of SAG actors with people that were.

You know, somewhat not, I wouldn't say Alist celebrities, but like people that were in this, like in the Sopranos and, and, um, sex and the City who had like nice size roles. So, and they were like, oh, you should go into acting. You have a great look. And so I tried it. I said, well, I wasn't, I did take some acting classes.

I wasn't drama. Maybe there's something to it. There wasn't. So, but I love being around actors. I love being in this space. I love being around them. And I, you know, even when I was meeting actors on set, if I was working on a short film or I did a little, little extra work here and there, I was finding actors, I was making friends with.

And then when I was looking for acting jobs, I was finding, I was like cutting out notices and saying, here, this would be great for you. And a couple people had said, I wish you could be my agent. And so the wheel started turning. I love doing this. So, and for [00:16:00] me, I think at the heart of it, I'm a connector.

Jesse: Mm-hmm. And 

Albert: I love connecting people. It's DNA pieces together a puzzle for me. And that is typically what an agent does. We connect the actors to the job, we connect, introduce the actors to the right people, help in, you know, facilitate introduction. So I get to be a people connector for business.

That I think is the heart of why I am, you know, went on this journey, is I'm a, I'm a connector. 

Jesse: What, what a fantastic story. 'cause you, you really started from left field, from not even anywhere close to what you're doing and kind of the, the path was put out in front of you. To be what you are now. I mean, if you really think about it, because you, you really didn't start out as like in, in the acting space until you started getting out there and then had the opportunity, which led to this opportunity, which led to your zone of genius, which is a being a connector.

And I think that's [00:17:00] fantastic. 

Albert: Thank you. Yeah. I mean, I, I look back, I mean, everything worked out in place, so, uh, and. So that, that I, I think is kind of like where I'm at today. And I still receive a PhD. I still did all that while I was, you know, working and building a company. And that kind of even led to my area of expertise now because my doctoral dissertation was on self-sabotage and actors.

Jesse: Mm-hmm. 

Albert: And so that kind of like led me to really studying imposter syndrome and how. And in my work, even though I focus more on actors, what I feel like this can apply to anybody, it's gonna buy entrepreneurs, be high achievers and be performers. We all deal with self-doubt and, and, and self-sabotage. 

Jesse: Can you, can you give me a little bit more insight on what you think imposter syndrome is and how that kind of works out in our head?

Because it sounds like you deal with that a lot. Yes. Or you dealt with it a lot. 

Albert: Um, both, you know, I can say this personally and with others, so, uh, the textbook definition, of course, imposter syndrome, like, I think [00:18:00] it's more than that. I think there's more layers to. I may have the minority opinion here, but I believe that one of the, that impossible syndrome can actually work for us because it can help us keep, it keeps us humble in a sense, and it helps us to become more trained and more skilled in areas that maybe we're not,  you know, proficient in.

And so if you really feel like. You're not being productive. So like a student would be like, oh, well who's gonna take me seriously as an agent? Who's gonna really take me seriously as an author? No but's gonna wanna read my book. No one's gonna, no actor's gonna really wanna work with me. And so the important thing to work through it, I don't think there's any way we're gonna get rid of it completely.

'cause like I said, it does work for us. So I think what we can do is learn to manage it. And to let it work in our favor. So managing it would be, start taking credit for the [00:19:00] success of that. So a lot of people have, you know, you and especially in my area, you know, our actors have to stereotype of being self-centered.

And some are, I'm not gonna lie, but a lot of times also actors fall under the, they don't take credit either for things successful that they have. And I think a lot of us do that too. 'cause we don't wanna be, appear to be arrogant or. Conceded so we will downplay our success. Unfortunately, that can will lead to impo feeling that you're not trained enough, you're not competent enough.

So the one thing I would say is definitely celebrate the education, the training you have. Again, I have the real world experience so I can credit that to myself. However, I also feel like just because I had 21 years that I'm not omni potent or oral knowing. Ominous, I'm definitely not, and you know, a full [00:20:00] on.

I know everything. I don't, I'm always learning. I've always had the, the mindset my entire life of, you always have to be learning. And I think even as an entrepreneur, we should always be in great, uh, in investing in self-improvement of some level and leveling up in any way possible. And that's where I think the imposter can be your friend a bit.

'cause it can help is okay, what are, what is something I'm deficient in? Okay. Is it maybe. Going live on social media? Is it creating videos, creating content? Is it social media marketing or, or tech skills? Okay, so what, what can I do to learn from that? What can I learn and that, so we, I don't become weak. I, I actually learned that.

So I think the important thing with an imposter syndrome, it keeps us humble, but it also can help us. Adopt the humility and to know when we don't know something. 

Jesse: [00:21:00] Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Uh. I, I know for a fact 'cause I do have a couple, uh, a few actor friends and one thing they're all good at is deflection.

Yes. So when, when it comes to somebody giving them a compliment or Hey, I really liked you, this film, they kind of like, oh, I'm just doing my job. Or, you know, I'm doing my best, or whatever. 

Albert: Right. And, and or it's just like, you know, I got the role but I think they gave it to me 'cause they liked me. Or, you know, I, I hear that a lot.

Or, you know, they felt sorry for me, so I, I think that's why they gave me the role. I'm like, no, you know, it's not like that. And so I, I, and I think because it, part of that is, you know, not giving into that mass, knowing that actors are self-centered and arrogant. And they're trying really hard to do that.

Plus it really depends on their upbringing too. You know, uh, again, I'm gonna wear my psychology hat for a second. If you grew up in a family that kind of put you down or always had something critical to say, [00:22:00] you start adopting that inner voice and said that, that will create this doubt or just delete the important things that you've done or distort them, or in, in a sense, so.

That's where I think the whole thing is. We need to take credit. Like, yes, you worked hard yet, you know, you are, you are trained, you are a good actor. Nothing's nothing wrong with saying that I'm a good actor. There's a difference between saying I'm a good actor too. I'm better than, I'm the best actor in the room.

You know that There's a big difference there. But I think we all need to, to pat ourselves in the back from at least from Don to Don. 'cause we worked hard for it. 

Jesse: Yeah, and you don't want to negate that positivity that somebody's bringing towards you by deflecting it away like you, like you don't deserve it, or something like that.

You want to take it within yourself. Thank you very much for telling me. I really appreciate that. You know, and that, so it's just something a little more positive than, oh, I was okay. Or something like that, so 

Albert: yeah. Well, well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thank you very [00:23:00] much for that. You know, I worked hard for it.

Okay. Yeah, 

Jesse: exactly. 

Albert: And, and that's it. And, and, and, and when you start, even, you know, and this is where I, I talk even about the language you use because then we, you know, by even saying this to somebody else like that, we start to then believe it internally, not just externally. It then becomes an internal, uh, strength.

And therefore that will mitigate a little bit of that imposter syndrome a bit. I was saying by taking quite a for your successes. 

Jesse: Yeah. Another thing too, uh, I like to think about too is if you're not feeling some sort of imposter syndrome, you're not working hard enough. I mean, 

Albert: hundred percent. Yeah. And that's true.

Just like, you know, when, when I talk about people who you know, uh, actors, if they have nerves, people audition or speakers before they go up and speak on a stage, if you're not feeling nervous, something's not right. Now what we can do is reframe that nervousness to excitement, to joy. You actually enjoying what you're doing and therefore your adrenaline is up.

'cause you're so excited to go on stage. Same principle. It's just a different way [00:24:00] of looking at it. And the same thing with imposters in your book. You're just being humble, you know? And if we look at it like being just humility, like, okay, I, I don't know everything. I can always learn something new. I can always go for more training.

And as actors, the important thing is to keep training no matter what level you're at. Even the A-listers go for training, regular, have their own coaches, they go, they're constantly practicing. If even like pro athletes, what are they doing? They're practicing, um, both off season and on season. I was reading an, I was interview for Michael Jordan who said that.

Every day, whether he was playing or not, he would always shoot 5,000 ubs because it's important to stay grounded, and I think that's where the imposter number can be our friend, by keeping us to make sure that we're always learning and always practicing, and always just working on ourselves. 

Jesse: Exactly.

That's a great point. I love that. Thank you so much. [00:25:00] And also, I, you know, being in the movie genre that you're in and running across a lot of actors, I'm sure you come across, uh, perfectionism quite often. 

Albert: Yes. And, and this also is not just with actors, but even with entrepreneurs, is perfectionism now. The problem with perfectionism is you, you then it also kind kind of relates to the other people procrastination.

' cause it's like, I need this to be perfect. I'm not gonna audition to, I have all these skills necessary, or I'm not gonna, you know, do this type of work and unless I take more classes or I need more training, I need more of this. And. And you just never start. You sit there and in a cycle of, I need more, I need more, I need more.

I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet. It has to be perfect. And even when I wrote my book, you know, so far, you know, as, as a first time author, I was running into this problem several times. I would sit in front of a blank page, write a couple of paragraphs, read the paragraphs, be so upset with it, [00:26:00] delete, put it in a recycling bin and bin.

And I was starting over and this happened for several years. Until one of my mentors who published like 15 books of of his own said, just write and then self-edit later. And you know, 'cause I kept saying, well no one's gonna like my book. Everyone's going to gonna trash it. And my coach being the no-nonsense person was said, you, well, you're not gonna know that if you don't write it.

I was like. You, you got a point there. I I, I don't, uh, if I, if I don't write a book, I'm not gonna have the opportunity for the Don graduate if that was the case. And he was laughing, but it was true. True. So the important thing is, and this is true, and this is not just a cliche quote, it's better to do something imperfect than to do nothing at all.

So just do it, you know, you're gonna make mistakes. That's the. Cycle of life. And definitely being a, a business owner or an actor, you're gonna make mistakes that that's, that's inevitable, but embrace it. And the only way you're gonna get to close it to perfect 'cause there's no [00:27:00] such thing as perfection is by making those mistakes.

And so it's better take action and perfect action is what I would say. Because if you keep your infection, you start procrastinating and then therefore you get nothing done. And. You know, how's that book go or how's that project? And that was what was going on for me for almost six years. How's that book coming?

Oh, well, it's coming along and until I, I adopted the imperfect action mindset, it never would've done, I could have been sitting here in 2025 saying, eh, I'm gonna someday write a book, and never would've been. 

Jesse: Well, definitely imperfect action is better than no action at all. That's really what that boils down to because we, we hide behind imperf, we hide behind perfectionism.

That's really, like you said earlier, and, uh, it, it makes a great point. 

Albert: Mm-hmm. It totally does because if you don't take the action, nothing's gonna be done. And. The one thing that all of us need to kind of get the, the word that we should all getting under our vocabulary is someday, 

Jesse: Hmm, 

Albert: well, someday I'm gonna write a book or someday I'm gonna start business and someday I'm gonna be an actor.

Someday doesn't exist. It's not on the calendar. So what is your reality when start [00:28:00] taking action today? What actions can you take? And even if it's just, okay, just jotting down some ideas, taking as an actor, go back into acting class. Go shoot some scenes on your phone and practice doing a couple monologues on your phone.

Or as a business owner, going to some networking events, meeting people. Another thing that's important is stepping outside of the comfort zone. 

Hmm, someday I'm gonna write a book or someday I'm gonna start business and someday I'm gonna be an actor. 

Jesse: Mm-hmm. 

Albert: And I think that is so important for growth. As entrepreneurs, as actors, as public speakers. One, I had one of my trainers initially when I was, um, studying NLP One of my trainers was a public speaking coach, and he would do these two day or three day seminars in New York City on improving your public speaking skills.

The first, the morning of the first day, everyone had to go [00:29:00] out to a mall or in public and do something completely outrageous. Act a fool. And they were, you know, who, who did the who the people that participated and did this felt so comfortable by the, by the afternoon, the first day. 'cause if you can do that out in public, make a fool on yourself.

Public speaking's easy now. And that was the whole point that the idea behind. That assignment was, well, he did that and he survived. So one thing that kind of really, I've always done, you know, this is prior to really 2020, but I used to host in New York City with my clients mainly, or karaoke nights, because I felt like karaoke is a great way to step outside your comfort zone.

And a great way to kind of face your fears especially is to just do [00:30:00] it. So, you know, like I, I always come to the belief that sometimes the best way to face their fear is to rip the bandaid off, get out there and carry. And I've even heard other, other, um, trainers say this too, that karaoke can be a great activity.

For even aspiring speakers or presenters because again, it's acting silly in a sense. Playful, but really putting in a air, if you think about it, 

Jesse: that's probably why I want to be a public speaker, is because I spent years singing karaoke. Uh, I love doing it. 

Albert: Makes sense. And then, and then it just becomes so easy to speak in front of people.

It's like, okay, I could belt, even though I can't sing, I can belt in front of other people. So, and, and you feel really good afterwards. And, and even a story that happened to me, I was in New York City on a Saturday and I had a large gap between events and I didn't wanna go back home to New Jersey in between.

So I was like, okay, what can I do? And I saw [00:31:00] a karaoke meetup. Great. I'll go to this. I didn't read the fine print though. Everyone must sing. I must sing two songs, at least I, I, I and and I. So I went to this, it was a mini room, so it wasn't like a full on karaoke bar. It was like a mini room of like, you know, a room for like 10 or 12 people.

And we're all sitting around this large like table circular table. We're all, you know, everyone was our best in the mic around. So I'm just sitting there watching. I just got there and I happened to get there, maybe one, two songs ahead, ahead of me. So I pointed in the mic, I said, okay, Albert, what do you wanna sing?

And I just went, um, and I, I do it. I was in the group description and I was sober. I didn't drink anything yet, so. I was like, okay, let's go for it. Now I want to tell you one thing. Doing karaoke in a bar is, is easy 'cause you don't hear yourself doing karaoke in a room with glass. Oh, you heard yourself and it was just like, whoa, am [00:32:00] I really?

Do I really sound like this? And what made it even more, I think, uncomfortable for me. Everyone was so good. I wasn't, I mean, I was having fun, I could tell you that. But you know, and I didn't know anybody in that room. I walked out of there on cloud nine feeling great. I mean, I can't, I don't know how the other experience was my torture.

Anybody else, I didn't care, but I felt great. So the important thing is, that's what I always say now, you wanna raise your self esteem. You wanna raise your. Courage, do something scary. Do something that makes them scary at first, because that, that's a great way to face your fear and all fear is really think about as false evidence appearing real.

Jesse: Yeah, I I'm very happy you said exactly that way 'cause that's exactly what I say all the time. It's in my podcast, ladies and gentlemen. I did not prompt Albert to say that, just so you know. That's, um, that's very affirming for me. So thank you. 

Albert: No,  and, and [00:33:00] I've said this through another podcast, so, but seriously, I think that it's true because a lot of times what we, what we fear is not real and it's.

Even if the worst case scenario happens, this idea failed or flops, the outcome is, and the reality of the outcome and our perception of the outcome is gonna be so different. So what's the big, you know, 'cause Okay, so what? So what if we fail? You know what? Okay. It's learning experience and nones gonna judge you.

I, and I'll give you another example. When I was ending my merger with the a, you know, other agency I had to make an announcement to on social media. I had to make an announcement to my clients that will currently be, there's gonna be a split. I was so worried and so fearful, I'm gonna lose everybody.

People are gonna judge harshly and all of that. And for days, for days, that kept me up at night. I laugh at that now because. [00:34:00] That never happened. Everyone was so supportive for both of us. Now, great, good luck. How can I help you? How can I support you? And there were, yeah, I did lose a few acting clients.

Okay. That was, it's gonna happen when you split. Like that's, we were gonna stay with the, the, my, you know, my former partner. Fine, that's gonna happen. But I would say it was like, I, it wasn't even one 10th of what I thought was gonna happen, so. That's why I say just go for it. Fear is just that it's, it's false.

So just go for it. And it's kind of better to, and this is also another rule too. It's like, you know, like shoot first and apologize later. Or just do the action first and apologize later. Have to, because otherwise you never know. And in my case, like I said, it was. I didn't, if I didn't become fearful, if I didn't, if I didn't, if I acted on that fear, I would never have known.

Jesse: Yeah. For me personally too, I use fear kind of as a [00:35:00] guide. 'cause a lot of times if you fear it, that means it's something you have to do. It's something that you have to get over because on the other side of that fear is gonna be something great. Whether it's a learning experience, whether it's meeting a goal, anything like that, it's always on the other side of that fear is something that's amazing for you.

Uh, 

Albert: yeah. And, and, and not only that. You know, and, and then I even started going through like, okay, what's the worst case scenario? So let's say I made the announcement and everyone leaves me. Well then there's so many other actors in New York City. It's not like there's, there's hundreds of thousands of actors that I could build my roster back up again if that, if that happened and that would've been the end of the world for me.

And it, that obviously never happened. So, but if I sat and been fearful of that, it would've did that and. Even going back to sell to my book. Let, let's say I was, I published and I did get a lot of one star reviews. A I would've learned what to do the next time I wrote, wrote my second book when I write my second book.[00:36:00]

And B, we all know sometimes a little bit of negative marketing can help us a bit. And that's what some officers were also telling me, that sometimes the negative reviews can actually boost the sales of the book because then now people want to say, okay, what's, what's with this? So. So again, go, go for it.

And one thing I often tell people is like, keep a journal of, of your fears. Write down like today what, what you're scared of. And then six months to a year from now, pull out that journal and I guarantee you're gonna be laughing and saying, that was no big deal. That was no big deal, that that worked itself out.

So. Just take action and small. It doesn't have to be like drastic right away. It's small steps, but the only way our lives are gonna change, the only business are gonna grow. The only way we're gonna become successful is by implementing changes and doing things and taking action. 

Jesse: And doing it now. 

Albert: Yes. Not tomorrow, not next year.

And that also why I don't make neither of resolutions [00:37:00] anymore. everyevery Time you read on social media about December else, week, new year, new me, like really? How many times are you gonna say that? Because it's a cliche. People are gonna wait till January 1st to, to do something different. Why not start today, you know?

Or even tomorrow morning, but put today. 

Jesse: Mm-hmm. 

Albert: Doesn't have to be. On the Monday or the new year, just start today because that's procrastination. That's why most New Year's resolutions fail, like 90% or over 90% of New Year's resolutions fail because people, you know, it's, it's, it's false. It's a, it's a procrastination thing.

Jesse: Exactly. That's amazing. Thank you, Albert. That's, uh, some fantastic information. I appreciate that a lot. So what I'd like to know here is, and I think we've touched on it already, but I'm gonna just hand out it one more time. Uh, if you do come across a new entrepreneur, whether it be in your industry or any other industry, what advice would you give them?

What steps would you [00:38:00] have them take? 

Albert: So I would say number one, take action. Just start the business. Number two, network with other people in your industry? Hmm. I I think that's so important. You know, even if they're competitors still, I think it's important to network with people. 'cause you can learn, you can build your base up and build a referral base up.

You never know. So networking with other people, consume a lot of content. Listen to podcasts in your niche. Listen to, you know, read books in your niche. Watch YouTube videos in your niche con, you know, connect with influencers in your niche, whatever area that you're in. So that's where learning begins.

And the support and the accountability. So, and just do it. I mean, and, but you know, the networking is so important because it's like the power, proximity. We hang out with other successful people, we're gonna become more successful by default. Just like on the other hand, if we hang out with, there's a lot of negativ negativity in our lives and people around us, we're gonna become that negativity by default.

Jesse: Well, we [00:39:00] are the, we are the sum of the five people we hang around most. So if the five people that you hang around most are gonna be negative, of course there's, you know, they're gonna get into your head Yeah. And make, they're gonna make you think that you're not good enough, or they're gonna feed on that imposter syndrome.

Oh yeah, you're right. You mean you're not, you're not smart enough for this or whatever, you know? Yeah. It's, it's just the way it is. 

Albert: The world's unfair. You know, the, the, this compe this business idea is not gonna work. It's too, you know, there's too much competition and therefore it's like you don't even try.

And, and you know, I'm gonna kind of like, it's not my words, but I'll borrow from Tony Robbins if borrow proximity. Rxi is power. So start hanging out with more successful people. Be around more successful people. This is why networking event is so important. Just to meet other people that are successful entrepreneurs and learn and consume their content and be, be, you know, a sponge for their knowledge so that it'll give you that accountability and it'll give you that [00:40:00] inspiration and that and the now in the systems to implement in your business.

Jesse: And there's so many places that we could go to, to be with people. Along those lines, there's the Chamber of Commerce, there's, uh, groups that networking, uh, events that you could go to. Even Facebook groups of people. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't, you don't even have to go anywhere. Just go to, to your phone, your computer and look for people that are in your same niche that you could conversate with and learn from.

Albert: LinkedIn. All size groups too. Facebook, LinkedIn I is, is great. YouTube what's what will consume a lot of content on YouTube that will. And connect on with these, you know, these creators and these influencers that are in your space. Connect with them and on social media so you don't have to leave your home in a sense.

And then also listen to other thought leaders in your field. And that's the best way that we're only gonna grow in a. 

Jesse: Exactly. Exactly. That's amazing. I love that. Thanks for bringing that, Albert. It's, that's fantastic. So what I'd like to do here is I [00:41:00] kind of have a tradition with all my guests, and then in the next six months, where do you see you and your company?

Do you have a goal for yourself in the next six months? 

Albert: Well, the goal for myself is number one, just to keep thriving, you know, too. To get better. I always feel like I wanna be a more, more scalability in the next six months. So I'd like to have much more high profile bookings in my downward business. Um, as far as my personal, I will, you know, I'm working on a second book at this point.

You know, it's, it's only in the planning stages, but in six months I like to have it in the editor's hands to start editing. So that's where I see myself in six months. So, and the only person anyone should be competing with is themselves, not anybody else, not worrying about what other people are doing.

So I always say like, be better, be a better version of yourself and your business in six months than you were Yeah. At this time. So. 

Jesse: Perfect. That [00:42:00] leads right into the next thing I was gonna say is what I'd like to do, Albert, if it's okay with you, is actually follow up with you in about six months.

Absolutely. Have another podcast just like this and see how we're doing. See how that book's going too. I'd love to hear about that. 

Albert: I would love, I'd love to, definitely. 

Jesse: Alright. Alright. All right, Albert. Okay. This is your time to shine. Albert, this is the time I want you to advertise yourself. How do we get ahold of you and all that good stuff.

Okay. Ready, set. Go. 

Albert: So you can check me on albert brimont.com. You can also find me on LinkedIn and at Under Albert Brimont, and my Instagram is at at Dr. Alber Monte. Also, check out my book Rise Above the Script, confronting self-Doubt, mastering Self-Sabotage for Boring Artists, which also has a lot of information for entrepreneurs and business owners.

So check that book out. It's available on audiobook ebook and paperback. Again, thank you so much for having me on. 

Jesse: You're very welcome, Albert. And, uh, if you want to check out that book, it will be in the show notes when this goes out. So, uh, we'll help you out a little bit. A little bit there, Albert. Okay.

Thank [00:43:00] you. Yeah. Thank you so much for taking the time to be on the Undiscovered Entrepreneur. This has been a real treat. Thank you so much. You've actually reaffirmed a lot of what I talk about my podcast without me having to tell you what I do, so that's amazing. 

Albert: Thank you. I'm really glad to be here.

Jesse: Alright. Alright, scuba believers, make sure you stay tuned for the wrap up. Okay everybody. Thank you. Bye-Bye. 

All right, school believers. That was Albert. What a great conversation. I love talking to Albert. I, I love putting something a little bit different out there for you. Every once in a while. When I think of entrepreneurs, I don't always think about actors or musicians or anything like that, but if you really get down to it and think about it hard, they are entrepreneurs too.

They sell themselves and their talents. But in the whole conversation, I do have a couple takeaways as usual. Imperfect action beats perfect inaction. Albert spent six years paralyzed by perfectionism while writing his book until a mentor told [00:44:00] him to just write and self edit Later. Proving that taking a messy step forward, trumps waiting for the perfect moment.

That never comes. And it never comes if we always wait for that one thing to be right. Just like I said in the podcast, it's never gonna happen 'cause we're always gonna be waiting and it turns into self procrastination. It turns into just not working, we have to be able to take that first step forward and realize that we can do something. We can make progress. You can make progress if you just get across the start line. Fear is your compass according towards growth. When Albert feared announcing his business split, he discovered he really was not even one 10th of what he imagined. Showing that our biggest fears often guard our most important breakthroughs, and the other side holds something transformative. And that's why we run towards fear instead of away from fear. 'cause we know on the other side of that fear [00:45:00] of

something that's gonna change our lives, something that's gonna be amazing, but we have to get over that fear and to know what's gonna be on the other side. With that, I wanna say thank you very much for another fantastic episode, and just a real quick word. , I have not been giving updates. I am moving my updates to Facebook.

Look up Jesse Blo and it has my podcast cover there on Facebook. I will be making reels to update you on. New and exciting things that are happening to me and a couple other things too. So look for me there. Alright, SC Believers. Thanks a lot. Have a good evening. Bye-bye.

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