From Perfectionism to Progress: Lessons from Time Coach Sam

Unlocking Entrepreneur Potential with Time Coach Sam

In episode 87, host Skoop interviews Sam Hall, a time management coach from the UK, sharing her journey in helping women find time for side hustles. The discussion covers Sam's early challenges, including overcoming perfectionism and embracing 'B minus' work to progress. They delve into common entrepreneurial hurdles like imposter syndrome, setting boundaries, and leveraging fear to drive growth. Key takeaways include the importance of starting despite fears, comparing progress to oneself rather than others, and celebrating small wins. Sam shares insights on managing interruptions, the significance of feedback, and the value of lifelong learning. She also discusses her plans for extending her time management coaching business. This episode offers practical advice and motivation for aspiring entrepreneurs looking to get across the start line.

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00:00 Introduction to the Undiscovered Entrepreneur
00:15 Meet Sam: Time Management Coach
00:42 Sam's Journey: From Doubt to Confidence
01:01 Overcoming Perfectionism and Embracing B Minus Work
01:42 Welcome to the Undiscovered Entrepreneur Podcast
02:43 Interview with Sam: Getting to Know Her
03:22 Sam's Time Management Tips and Strategies
10:08 The Importance of Setting Boundaries
12:49 Facing Fear and Building Confidence
20:45 Procrastination vs. Perfectionism
22:24 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Imposter Syndrome
23:44 The Rollercoaster of Entrepreneurial Emotions
27:15 The Pitfalls and Learning from Failure
33:46 The Importance of Starting and Continuous Learning
36:56 Setting Goals and Looking Ahead
39:40 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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[00:00:00] This is an Undiscovered Legacy production.

Hello SC Believers and welcome to episode number 87 of the Undiscovered Entrepreneur, and it's me sc coming at you, whatever device you happen to be listening on. Okay, so today we're talking to a very special guest. Her name is Sam,

sam is a time management coach that helps people manage their time to be able to have that little extra time that you need to be able to start a side hustle or some kind of entrepreneur adventure. So I have a really kind of soft spot for her because I have a lot of time management issues that I have to square away.

So time management is really, really important there for me and could be for anybody else too. When Sam was just first getting started, she took the leap and offered free one on one coaching despite doubting anyone would ever say yes.

But that first yes completely transformed her confidence and kick started her side hustle. of time management coaching. We also go over a couple of [00:01:00] hurdles that we talk, about

in my podcast, perfectionism, we talk about imposter syndrome and how much perfectionism is the enemy of progress. Sam encourages embracing B minus work. putting content out there regularly instead of aiming for that one special perfect thing but never launching because it's never 100 percent perfect.

And how much the feedback instead is the key to growth. So let's get right into it and listen to or watch Sam.

Salutations, School Believers, and we're here again with another Take care. Amazing entrepreneur today. We are here with Sam. Hi, Sam. How are you? Hi, Jesse. I'm fine. Thank you. Great. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to be on the undiscovered entrepreneur. Get across the start line. I really appreciate you.

Thank you for inviting me. I'm really grateful. It's lovely to be here. 

All right. So I have one kind of semi serious question to [00:02:00] ask you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Are you a school believer? Definitely. All right. Thank you so much for being a school believer, Sam. I really super appreciate you. All right. So what I'd like to do here at the very beginning is kind of get an idea of who you are and kind of what you do and how you actually got across the start line in your business.

Okay, so my name is Sam Hall. I live in the UK. I have a side hustle helping other women find time to build a side hustle. So basically I'm somebody who is very good at time management and I help other women find time With time management so that if they want to start a side hustle, they can find time in their busy schedule to do so.

Now, how did I get across the start line? I, I posted on Instagram offering free one to one coaching. I fell in love with life [00:03:00] coaching during COVID. I joined a life coaching program myself and I thought I've got a background in psychology and social work, so I suppose life coaching was a similar area.

And I thought I would really like to see if I could do this because I'd learnt so much as a student of life coaching. So I put on Instagram, would anybody want to do free one to one coaching with me? thinking nobody would say yes. And somebody who lives in Australia volunteered to be a guinea pig. And I just thought, my God, somebody actually trusting me to want to work with me.

And I started doing it with her and with other people and sort of built my confidence from there and so actually. I'm not bad at this. So it was just somebody saying yes, when I volunteered my [00:04:00] services. 

That's awesome. It's always nice that somebody that actually will take a chance on you to be able to talk to you.

And even if it's just to have a one on one conversation about what's going on in their life, we could still, help them and point them in the direction where they want to go, where they want to be. But it's always nice to get that first yes. 

Definitely. And I think you just think it's never going to happen.

And I was so surprised. And once one person had said, yes, I think I felt more confident than to offer it to, other areas like I advertised in the local supermarket, put a flyer up, just simple things like that. messaged groups of friends, I WhatsApp groups that I belong to and see if anybody wanted some help with time management.

So I think it helped grow my confidence working with when one person said yes. And I thought I can do this. It built my confidence to offer it to other people. 

It's fantastic too, that [00:05:00] you actually took that step across the start line and put yourself out there to say, Hey, I'm here to help whoever wants help.

And a lot of people find that really intimidating to actually put their name out there and say, Hey, who needs some help out there to see what's going to happen? 

Yeah. And I think it's hard when you've had, when people have seen you in a certain role, sometimes, like I have a job as a social worker when I'm not doing my side hustle on people, see you in a certain way.

And then when you're trying to offer something else, but People can, yeah, be really kind and interested when you're trying to do something. And I've found, I've got some really good feedback from people, say friends who live locally or people, a woman who lives in my village just stopped me in the street and said, Oh, I signed up for your freebie and I found it really helpful.

So people, Sometimes people are quietly watching you and you don't realize [00:06:00] that they're getting benefit from what you're putting out. So post you might be putting out on Instagram or Facebook, not everybody's really vocal, but they can still be getting benefit from what you're, you're putting out and finding value in, in your content.

I think I'm 

podcast too. People listen to us. People listen to Sam and realize that she has something to offer or something that she just happened to say that really triggers something in their head. That's really what my goal is with this podcast is to help other people whether I know about it or not.

So 

yeah, that's amazing. Tell me a little bit more about the time management thing. How did, when did you realize you were really good at time management? 

I think I've always been somebody who's been on time for appointments and been organized. It's just something that's come naturally to me in my job as a social worker.

I've just been good at planning and I just think how you live. The [00:07:00] minutes and hours is how you live your life, really, isn't it? So I've become more interested in it and read a lot of books about time management. So I say, I think it's just something that came naturally to me and I was good at. And I think sometimes when you're good at something and things come easy, you just expect everybody else to know how to do it.

But not everybody has different talents and skills. And so I've realized that things that I think are really obvious, other people don't necessarily do. So, being able to share my knowledge with people and, others have found. Really helpful. 

It sounds like time management and your experiences have really turned into your zone of genius and what you could really talk about and be a part of.

Say definitely. I think specifically I look at it from people who want to start a side hustle. I focus [00:08:00] specifically on women. I think that even in our supposedly equal society, maybe women still feel more responsible for the household and the kids and things like that. So I talk about organizing home life and just things like cooking and looking after the house homemaking stuff so that women can find time around that for a side hustle.

I, when I first, let's see, you wouldn't even recognize me three years ago from what I'm doing now, but. Back then I had a really serious problem with time management. I was that guy that was a fashionably late a half an hour, I was never on time for anything. I always forgot stuff. And now I have to, especially what I'm doing now, cause I have two full time jobs on top of podcasting, on top of coaching, on top of editing for another podcast.

My time management has to be almost perfect now to be able to accomplish those things I accomplish. So the thing that I, that [00:09:00] really upsets the time management thing for me was setting boundaries for, for myself. So what do you think about setting boundaries for yourself and time management? How does that come across?

It's about prioritizing it as in deciding what's important. When I, Talk about boundaries in the post that I share, I talk about protecting time. So people who want to swim and you want to start a side hustle. I say, if you're taking the time to plan the work you want to do, and that can be true of any work, like in your day job, if you're working and you've got constant interruptions, you're not going to get anything done.

And so, because. It's things like, constant emails, your phone buzzing with notifications, you're, that's always other people's priorities, isn't it? They want information from you. That's why they're sending you an email or sending you a message on WhatsApp. Whereas your priority is [00:10:00] to get on with your day.

Something else. And I think if you have those boundaries protecting your time from those interruptions, then say, for example, in my day job, I can finish work at five o'clock because I've been able to focus on what are my priorities and what's going to move me forward. And I'm not bringing that home so I can have the time to work on my side hustle.

I also look at interruptions from friends and family, because say women who are working the evening on their side hustle is going to be, the kids coming in asking, what are we having for tea? Or where's my favorite t shirt is this iron things like that. When you're working from home, you're going to get interruptions that you're not going to get when we all worked in an office, because if you're in the office, your kid wouldn't turn up at the door asking for their mom saying what I'll be having for tea tonight.

But when you're. At home, maybe working at the kitchen table, the kids are going to interrupt. So I talk about trying to educate your family [00:11:00] to recognize that that's important time for you and basically not to interrupt you unless the house is burning down 

or somebody's bleeding. That's the other one.

Yes, that's what I tell my kids to unless the house is burning down or somebody's bleeding. Don't bother me. 

Yeah, 

that's another, yeah, good 

one. 

That's great. Yeah, having those boundaries, setting those things for yourself. I had, with my tight schedule, I definitely had to say, okay, on Tuesdays and Sundays between this time and this time, I'm doing my podcast, so please try not to bother me.

So yeah, you make a great point in that. Excuse me. All right. So I know you said you were just kind of getting started with this with your coaching, but what do you think actually stops entrepreneurs from getting across the start line? 

Fear of failing. I would say yeah, fear of looking stupid.

Nobody's going to be interested in what I've got to say. [00:12:00] Nobody's going to listen. I'm going to be rubbish. I think part of me still has that sometimes when I give talks in Facebook groups, but had some really good feedback. I think it's about, as they say, feeling the fear and doing it anyway, because, my day job I've been doing for 14 years.

So I know that like the back of my hand, and even though there's things in that, that are really difficult, I've been doing them for so long that you just get on with it. You don't have that same anxiety. I think you have to. As however anxious you feel, the more you do it, the easier it gets for me.

So I still have my stomach in knots when particularly on a Facebook group talk, and you never know how many people are going to come on. But everybody has been so open to what I've got to say. I've found that I can help them. That's built my [00:13:00] confidence, I think, because sometimes you're like, who am I to talk to these people about time management?

What do I know that they don't know? Actually, I think the more you do it, you realize maybe you, in the area that you've chosen, you've chosen it because you think you have that knowledge to share with other people and I've found that once I get into conversations with people, it's really helpful.

Then I really can help them and answer their questions. I think I'm afraid of not knowing the answer. And sometimes it's okay not to know the answer to a question, but let's say just getting that positive feedback has been really good and helped, helped me get over that initial anxiety of how am I going to be?

And am I going to look stupid? 

So a lot of what you've talked about. Really kind of goes into one of my four pillars, which is imposter syndrome. So when I hear the words who am I to, and am I good enough? Aren't things like that, [00:14:00] that almost red flags me into imposter syndrome. And that is one of my main pillars.

We, we really have to be able to understand that not everybody knows exactly what you know. So you are going to, you are going to be the speaking board for what you are trying to accomplish and what your positivity will say to these other people. Sometimes they might know what you already know, but that's okay.

That's just reinforcing them on saying, Hey, I know this. She knows this too. We have a common ground. That's great. That's actually a positive thing. But what if it's something that you don't know, but they do? But that's a great thing too, because now you could add that to your bookcase of new information.

They're not going to look down on you because you don't know it. That's what a lot of people are afraid of. They're going to look down on me because I don't know this is this common knowledge, right? But now that you know that common knowledge, now you can give it to people who don't know those [00:15:00] particular things.

So, and having that repetitive work, Makes you more and more confident as you go along. Yeah, it's not gonna be the same every time, but as you go along, you're gonna realize just like your regular job, just like you were saying earlier, the more in the do it, the more confident you're gonna be. The more of an expert you're gonna be.

And the more what's the word now? My brain stopped. Sorry. That happens sometimes. Yay. Editing . The more of an e expert you're gonna be in that particular thing that you're doing, you come the more efficient. Right? So, and fear, I can't, I look at fear a little bit differently than most. I look at fear as a guide, right?

I use fear as I have to go do that thing because I'm scared of it. Right? I don't know if anybody else does that. But when I'm scared of something, that's something in the back of my head saying, hey, you're scared of it. That means you need to go do it. Because a lot of times on the other side of that fear is greatness.

And I think it's understanding our [00:16:00] brains in terms of my understanding of life coaching. It's your, your higher brain is like, this is really good for me. This is going to move me forward. This is what I want to do. I want to talk to these people. I want to build my side hustle. But in the moment, like my primitive brain is like, Oh, no, this is too difficult.

This is too hard. And it's like having an understanding of why you're feeling like, like this, but knowing you, say your higher brain knows this is going to benefit you in the end. It's like going to the dentist, isn't it? I don't really want to be at the dentist. I knew it was a good idea to come and have a checkup.

And now I'm here. I know, it could be painful and turn out, have to have a filling or something, but it's you, you, your higher brain knows this is the right thing to do. And this is, but in the moment, say your primitive brain is telling you, I just want to walk out the door and go the other way.

I don't want to click that link to join that Facebook group or that podcast. So I think it's just, yeah, understanding how, you Your brain works for me. And that's how when I was in the [00:17:00] life coaching program, it really helped me understand that and what to expect from doing new things. 

We got to train our brains into thinking that instead of having this anxiety or this, this girl feeling and turn it into something positive.

So instead of being fear, it could be excitement. Or it can be something that you're really looking forward to because all that information comes from the same part of our brain as anxiety. It's the same section. I know this gets kind of weird, but I don't know about a technical guy. This is just stuff I've read, but the same place in our brain that anxiety lives is the same place where excitement lives.

In our brains. So if we can make that switch and just even just change the wording from from anxiety to excitement that will transform us into some bigger and better things because we'll be a lot less afraid of it and be more apt to want to go do the thing that we fear. [00:18:00]

Yeah, I use some mantras, I do some stuff about procrastination and get comfortable with feeling uncomfortable and things like sayings I got on a sheet that I use and tell myself when I'm feeling like that, sort of some little like therapy things to counsel myself with when I'm feeling that fear.

Do you do you have one of them handy or one that you could see there? Maybe you could tell us about? 

Oh, I don't know whether I've got it here. It's it's a procrastination sheet that I did as a freebie. So yeah, progress feels uncomfortable. Yeah. And if you are constantly doing only what you feel like doing, you are not going to be moving forward.

And then, yeah, to be able to do something well, you need to be prepared to do it badly lots of times. This was just a freebie that I had about [00:19:00] procrastination because it was something and I sort of talk about the brain in that and the those little sayings and have some practical tips for helping people but, When you're talking about time management, see, sometimes it's not about having the time, it's facing that fear and doing it anyway, because people are procrastinating the task.

So actually the task doesn't take that long to do. It's not about fitting it into your day. It's tackling it. in the first place. So one of the things that I talk about as part of time management is this procrastination and feeling the fear and then doing it anyway. 

So do you feel that there is a common, like a common ground between procrastination and perfection?

I think that being a perfectionist, one of my other sayings is it's okay to do B minus work. So sometimes writing blog posts or putting social media posts out there, people again, their fear of, Failure of looking stupid. They're like, [00:20:00] this post has got to be perfect, but nothing is ever going to be perfect.

And I'm like, it's best better to put out a post every day. That's a B minus post than an a star post once a week. I think it's getting comfortable with that and producing that work and putting out into the world, because otherwise. You're never going to put anything out there because nothing is ever going to be perfect.

Yeah, agreed 100%. We're, we're better off putting something out there than nothing and just waiting for the planets to align or this perfect situation to come across before we put anything out there. Be okay with it being all perfect. And then get feedback from that and learn from that and see what other people are actually saying about it and then make adjustments from there.

Then, you're going the right way with it instead of just kind of guessing if it's going to work or not. 

And you can just improve on it in the future. And if you're putting social media posts out, you're always [00:21:00] repeating your message anyway out there. So you put something out there and then. When your skills and knowledge are better, as you say, and you've had feedback, you just change it and improve it as you go along.

And that's just about progressing, isn't it? Developing as a person, whether it's, for me, with women in their situs or any business or any new skill that you're doing. 

Exactly. And it's just like before, as we get more comfortable with putting it out there, it just gets better because we're doing it in a repetitive state.

All right. So, when we talked about what you thought were stopping new entrepreneurs for getting across the start line, is that something that was happening to you too when you were getting across the start line? Was that something similar?

I'm trying to remember what about feeling the fear and being an imposter. I think I [00:22:00] was more, it's never going to happen and looking at other people and thinking there, they can do it, but it's not going to happen for me. It's, it's, it's just going to be a dream and always stay a dream. And I think sometimes I probably think that in my head, now, but I think it's just about keep trying to, to move forward.

But sometimes I think I, it's about that doubt that you're ever going to be able to succeed. That's been something for me. I think you have to take the, I don't know, the big view, like you can have a really good day. I get new followers and or people on my email list and I feel really positive and you get those dopamine hits of yes, I can do this.

I'm really successful. And then I put a reel out on Instagram and it gets hardly any views. And so I feel that I've got this [00:23:00] rollercoaster of yes, I can do it. No, I can't do it. And it's based on. a single event or one day rather than looking at how far have I come this month, these six months, this year.

You have to look at the big picture sometimes rather than let every single little event sway you. And that's it. I'm giving up today because my reel only got 50 views on Instagram. 

Yeah, that's the, I, I, Go do that a lot too, because one will do really good. I'll get like a thousand views and like that.

And then the next one I got, I get 20, like, how does that even work? I don't understand how that, how that ag, I'm still trying to figure that out. But the thing that, that really strikes me and everything that you just said, Sam was we really, it's comparison. Comparison and we were comparing ourselves to other people's entrepreneur adventures people that are bigger than us they've already taken the journey and they were like we're never gonna get there if we're gonna compare ourselves to them because They've already been on the journey for 10 years.

How are [00:24:00] you gonna catch up to him? So instead of comparing ourselves to these other people we compare ourselves to ourselves We compare ourselves to a week ago. We compare ourselves to a month ago so we could see the journey And we can see forward from it as well, too. I'm gone this far from here to there.

Now I could do something different to go from there to wherever it is that I want to go. So, comparison is the killer of joy. You really, it's really comparing ourselves to other people does not work. Now it's okay to idolize them, right? It's okay to have them as maybe a virtual mentor, but to do exactly the same thing that they're trying to accomplish.

It just doesn't quite work out that way. 

Yeah. Did you say, I think you can. Learn from others, but not your journey is never going to be the same as then, as you say, and you're comparing yourself to your first year of business to somebody else's 10th year of business. And it's so, [00:25:00] you're never gonna, you say, catch up with them.

And I think you say it's just about looking at your own journey and where have you come from? Look back at what you've done and what you've achieved. It's like they say in the horse on the race, putting those blinkers on, you stay in your lane. Don't keep looking. Do each side and see what everybody else is doing.

Focus on what you're doing. Because I think also you can spend so much time looking at it from a time management's perspective. I can waste time on Instagram looking at what other people are doing rather than creating my own content and putting it out there, which is what's going to move me forward.

Just scrolling other people's content and thinking, Oh, look, they got 2000 views on their reel and I only got 50 is not going to move. Me forward unless I'm trying to learn how unless they are teaching me how they got that and I can learn from them, but just looking at it and feeling envy is [00:26:00] not going to help me move forward 

100 

percent 

Absolutely.

All right. So we talk about pitfalls a lot. And what we've come across as far as challenges that we've had in our business. But do you have an actual pitfall or problem that you're actually proud of? I'm glad this pitfall happened because it pushed me along to do this. Has anything like that ever happened to you?

That's a hard one. I've tried to think of something off the top of my head that has I can't in the moment think about anything. Something will probably come to me afterwards. I'll think of or as we're talking, but 

It's usually when the best stuff pops up is after the interview is over, right? 

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

But I can't think of anything at the moment. bad that has happened. And then I think I'm glad that did. And that has moved me forward. No, [00:27:00]

No, that's okay. How about this? How long have you actually been in business? You, your side hustle has been around for how long? 

My side hustle has been around only for about a year that I've been posting, but it's only recently I've I say my site as well.

I think I've been promoting freebies, building an email list. And now I've recently in May of this year recorded a course and released that. So I'm selling my course. So I think I've just been looking at is I'm building an audience, building my knowledge, developing my confidence, and then actually selling something is only May.

So, in that time, what is your biggest accomplishment? Is it the course that you're putting together or what has been your biggest accomplishment so far? 

Hmm. I think doing just being prepared to put myself out there. Really. I try and like people see [00:28:00] me, I talk on Instagram a lot on stories and I try to Just do that and people say to me, when I see them, I go to some in person networking events locally and people say, Oh, you're just like you are on stories and you're always talking on there and they won't put themselves out there.

They are just taking pictures and stuff like that. And I just really try and be brave and because I just think things like that last 24 hours. Does it matter? But just also approaching people putting myself forward for things like this, for podcasts, Facebook groups. Some people never come back to you.

Other people do. I think what's the worst that's going to happen. So I try and get out of my comfort zone and say, volunteer for things or approach people and ask if they'd be interested in having me do a talk. And it's amazing. How many people are, it's trying to not be fearful of having those [00:29:00] no's, either ignoring you or come back and saying, I'm not interested.

So really just try and think actually, all of those no's are good, because it means I've asked a lot of times and some of those are going to be yeses. 

No's sometimes could be a good thing. I said that on a podcast a couple, a couple weeks back, but no it could be a learning experience if you handle it the right way.

So, if somebody says no to you, and you've worked with them for a little while, I think you've earned the right to ask, how come? How come is it no? Then, if they're good people, not always the case, but if they're good people, let's say because of this, and now you know, That this is something that you could work on.

It's something you can improve on. So the next one will be a lot less likely to be no, if you come across the same situation. So, no, even though right, from the very beginning, it seems like a negative thing, but in actuality, once you actually sit down and think about it, no can be a positive thing too.[00:30:00]

Yeah, I suppose that's about getting constructive feedback, isn't it? Because if everybody says yes, or is nice to you about what you're putting out, but actually they don't want to tell you no, and that it's not very good, that is not going to help, is it? It's like being at school and the teacher, giving you good marks is really your rubbish because you're never going to pass the exam.

So you need to have that feedback. to help you improve. It's about being prepared to be a lifelong learner. When we're children, we're just used to learning. We're used to being judged, getting things marked. You do your driving test, you're used to stalling the car just doing things wrong.

And then when you become an adult and you've been competent, Whether that's in your career, and then you step outside of your comfort zone. It's just not natural anymore. We've lost that ability to be learners. And I think it's when you starting any business or anything new, you have got to be prepared to be a learner again and to be [00:31:00] rubbish and, but to practice, practice, practice, and you will get better.

Yeah. I call those ugly babies. Ugly babies. Because when you first start something out, it's terrible. It's going to be terrible because you've never done anything for it. So it's ugly, right? I don't know. I heard that somewhere. But But, yeah, you know what's funny is when I get some feedback, when I ask a friend or a relative, Hey, what do you think of this?

I always get the, Yeah, oh, that's great. That's not what I want to hear. As much as you want to think about you want it to be like, so positive in the back of my head is no, tell me something I can work on. Tell me something. No, tell me something's bad. So I know I could go back and I could fix it.

As, as much as getting positive feedback is awesome. At the same time, it's not always what I'm looking for. It's not the niceties that I'm looking for. I want that constructive feedback so I can improve things. 

Yeah. And, and I think when people give you feedback, they've probably taken a lot more time to look [00:32:00] at, like in my day job and I write reports.

I'm going to be doing a video on how to get some reports for work if my manager reads it and they come back and they say it's fine. I'm like, No, tell me more. I want you to show me that you've read it. And then these bits are really good, but you need to think about this more in these sections. So people have actually taken the time to really think about what what I've produced whereas if they come back and just say it's final.

Have you really? Reddit. And it's, there can't be everything that's good about it. There must be some things that can be improved. 

Exactly. Exactly. And that's what we look for as content creators and, and people that want to help other people. All right. So I, all my listeners on my podcast for most of them anyway, I think are all brand new entrepreneurs.

So what kind of advice would you give to a brand new entrepreneur that comes up to you and asks for advice? What would you tell them?

I would say,[00:33:00]

I suppose, just start. So don't spend too much time thinking about it. Just make a start because it's procrastination and trying to be perfect. Just actually do something, put something out there, get some content out into the world, because you can always change it. If you've got one focus, and like people talk about niching down, you have to be more specific, and people are worried about choosing the wrong area.

But I think you can always change it. change that, but just start because you'll always wish you'd, I wish I'd started my Cytosol tenure, I'm in my mid fifties. So I'm like, I wish I'd done this 10, 15, 20 years ago, but I'm here now. So I think it's just start. And lots of things I think we've talked about, just be prepared to be a learner.

And be open to [00:34:00] learning and be open to being rubbish. As you said, what's it being an ugly baby or putting out ugly babies? Just, yeah, be prepared for that and use. There is so much information out there nowadays. I always tell people and people procrastinate and say, Oh I don't know how to do this.

And I don't know how to have an email service provided. And I don't know how to make reels. And I'm like, Oh, We've got YouTube, we've got Google, we've got chat GPT. Now there are freebies galore that people want to give you to get you onto their email list. There are free courses. There is so much information out there.

So sometimes people will say they've put themselves in these mindsets of I'm not techie, I'm not this so I can't. start a side hustle. I can't start a business. It's just, you can learn so much from the internet more than any other time in the history of humankind, I would think. So that is [00:35:00] not a reason.

You will find a way every single time. Who is it? Marie Forleo, everything is figureoutable. I think I listened to her audio book and I think that's true. If you're determined enough, you can learn anything on YouTube. 

YouTube university. Look it up. Yes. Okay. That's fantastic. And I got to tell you, I'm not a technical guy.

I am definitely not a technical guy, but if I'm able to put together a podcast, anybody can. And it's kind of the same idea too. I looked it up in a book. I watched a YouTube video. I figured it out and now I'm doing this and yeah, I wish I started a lot sooner too. I'm going to be honest with you. I heard a proverb.

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, but the second best time to plant a tree is today. So do it now. Okay, so I do this with all my guests and put together a six month goal. So where do you see you and your company in the next six months, Sam? 

In the next six months, [00:36:00] I plan to have at the moment, I'd say my course is a basic mini course.

I call it because it's six bite sized lessons. So I plan to develop a much longer and more in depth course and sell that. So I suppose at the moment I've got what people would call my low ticket offer and I plan to develop a high ticket offer and sell that so that people can start with my basic course.

And see if they like it and then they could go on to the high ticket course. So that's my plan for the next six months to develop that high ticket course. 

Awesome. That's great. So what I'd like to do with you, Sam, if it's okay with you, I'd actually like to have another interview with you in six months.

Okay. 

Let's see if we've reached that goals and see what changes have come across in those six months in your business. Is that okay? 

That sounds wonderful. 

All right, because now you're not just accountable to me, but you're accountable to everybody and it's in my audience. Okay. 

Yeah. [00:37:00]

That's great. All right, Sam, this is your time to shine.

This is the time I want you to advertise yourself. I want to tell, I want you to tell us how we get ahold of you. And if you can give us a, how we get ahold of this, some of these freebies that you got going on, and maybe even that little mini course you're talking about. 

Okay. So I mainly hang out on Instagram.

That is my favorite social media platform. So I'm time coach Sam on Instagram. I. I have a website timecoachsam. com I have a freebie, which is basically 30 tips and techniques about how to organize your life so you can find time for a side hustle. So you can get that on my website. There's a link on my in my profile from Instagram.

I also have that procrastination cheat sheet as one of my freebies. That is not on my website, but it is on [00:38:00] Instagram. So, and then my mini course that's linked on my website and also on Instagram. 

All right. Fantastic. Sam, thank you so much for taking the time to be on the Undiscovered Entrepreneur.

It's been an absolute pleasure talking to you today. 

Thank you very much for having me, Jesse. It's been great. 

All right. All right, school believers. Make sure you stay tuned for the wrap up. Okay, everybody. Thank you. Bye bye. 

Gentlemen, that was Sam. What a great conversation we had with Sam. And she made some great points about embracing your fear, about perfectionism. We really hit a lot of great points. But the one thing that really kind of stuck out to me is embrace your fear and just start your entrepreneur adventure. Even if you doubt your abilities, just take the first step. Put yourself out there, offer your services, even if it's for [00:39:00] free, and build confidence through that experience. Because that's the only way we're going to be able to show that confidence, is gathering that experience and knowing that you could actually do what you set out to do.

And always celebrate the small wins and focus on your own progress, not the progress of other people because a lot of other people that you're going to be following, you're going to be a little bit further along than you are, but that's okay. Instead of doing that comparison, compare yourself to yourself, just like we talked about in the interview.

And remember, comparison is the enemy of joy. So

track how far you have come and use setbacks as opportunities to learn and improve. So when we do have those failures, we learn from those failures and we use those failures to improve on what we're doing to get across that start line. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for another great episode and I will see you next week.

Goodbye for now.